{"id":73510,"date":"2025-04-09T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-04-09T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/?p=73510"},"modified":"2025-04-09T09:30:38","modified_gmt":"2025-04-09T16:30:38","slug":"atheists-and-believers-were-all-on-a-path-together","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/atheists-and-believers-were-all-on-a-path-together\/","title":{"rendered":"Atheists and Believers: We\u2019re All on a Path Together"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>My friend, a person of faith and a good citizen, has given countless hours of selfless service to his community \u2013 so it really surprised me when atheists&nbsp;charged him with using religion as a crutch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You\u2019ve probably heard that comparison before. Sigmund Freud said it, as have several others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But considering the work a person of faith exerts to be of service&nbsp;and helpful to all, charging that such a person necessarily lacks inner strength and therefore needs a psychological crutch&nbsp;didn\u2019t seem sensible to me. The more I focused on the crutch metaphor, the less sense it seemed to make. So, I decided to ask members of an atheist Facebook group for their&nbsp;thoughts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>RELATED: <a href=\"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/friend-atheist-religion\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">My Friend the Atheist on Religion<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>My Online Interaction with Atheists<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I joined this atheist group six years ago when its founder entered a Baha\u2019i Facebook discussion group saying he wanted to invite people with a religion to join his group and ask questions of atheists as a way of creating understanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Over the years I\u2019ve read and occasionally participated in their discussions, and learned the group\u2019s ideology and dynamics. Most of the members had left their parents\u2019 churches and now carry some degree of resentment for religion. That I\u2019d been an avowed atheist for a few years before I became a Baha\u2019i gained me some credibility with them \u2013 as an idealistic teen, I\u2019d quit my parents\u2019 church because I thought many of its members were hypocrites, and considered myself an atheist until two years later, when I felt the spirit of the Baha\u2019i Faith and converted. In sum, I\u2019d been on both sides.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I asked the question, \u201cwhat does it mean to say religion is a crutch?,\u201d 27 people responded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I periodically thanked individuals for their input while prompting them for clarification. For example, I asked someone what he thought it meant to be &#8220;religious&#8221; because people often use that term to mean those<strong>&nbsp;<\/strong>who only follow rites and rituals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I said I would define \u201creligious\u201d as someone who works hard every day to better their inner self and their&nbsp;community. He said this didn\u2019t agree with any dictionary definitions, to which I responded with a virtual thumbs up. I interacted with another atheist who said people with conflicting spiritual claims, however well-intentioned, can\u2019t both be correct. I countered with, \u201cWhy not? Reality is huge and no one understands all of it.\u201d Although atheists think of their non-belief as formless, it does provide a framework for thought and might even be construed as a belief system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Baha\u2019i teachings <a href=\"https:\/\/reference.bahai.org\/en\/t\/ab\/PUP\/pup-92.html\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">say <\/a>\u201c\u2026&nbsp;<strong>no matter to what religion a man belongs, even though he be an atheist or materialist, nevertheless, God nurtures him, bestows His kindness and sheds upon him His light.<\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When responses to my question about religion as a crutch started to become repetitious, I looked over the responses, compiled the data, and sorted it into three main themes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1) Religion is an excuse for not thinking critically, controlling others, inaction, bad choices. Most responses were in this category&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2)&nbsp;Branding something as \u201cpart of God\u2019s plan\u201d explains things away<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3)&nbsp;The \u201clet go and let God\u201d approach enables people to dodge personal responsibility or absolves them of culpability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After pondering all this, I thanked everyone again and told them that, based on their responses, it now occurred to me that anyone \u2013 including atheists \u2013 can use similar excuses for doing or not doing anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Character Flaw or Cosmology?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>That is, it could also be a crutch to say, \u201cWe\u2019re all going to die anyway so what difference does it make.\u201d I said, what it boils down to is that mature individuals, whether religious or not, take responsibility for their choices and actions. In other words, I said I thought the \u201ccrutch\u201d metaphor applied to a character flaw, not someone\u2019s cosmology.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The only responses to this were \u201cGood point\u201d and a GIF of a Muppet character shrugging its shoulders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I once had a conversation with a woman who\u2019d recently arrived in the United States from China. She said she didn\u2019t believe in God. I asked how she defined God. She admitted that this was something she hadn\u2019t considered. Next time I saw her I learned she\u2019d decided to become a Baha\u2019i.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another time I had a conversation with a woman I worked with on a committee. She said she was neither religious nor spiritual. I was surprised and pointed out all the sacrificial service work she did, all the injustices she worked to remedy in her social action work, and that she reflected so many of God\u2019s attributes like compassion, kindness and fair-mindedness, and I suggested that her actions actually defined spirituality. She said that made sense<strong>,<\/strong>&nbsp;and that she\u2019d never thought of it like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>RELATED: <a href=\"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/questions-from-an-atheist-the-god-hypothesis\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Questions from an Atheist: The God Hypothesis<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Baha\u2019i teachings point this out. <a href=\"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/abdul-baha\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Abdu\u2019l-Baha<\/a>, the son and successor of the <a href=\"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/bahai-faith\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Baha\u2019i Faith<\/a>\u2019s founder<a href=\"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/bahaullah\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> Baha\u2019u\u2019llah<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/reference.bahai.org\/en\/t\/ab\/PUP\/pup-98.html\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"undefined (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">defined<\/a> all actions meant to establish love and fellowship as \u201cbeloved and sanctioned\u201d by God:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p><strong>\u2026 inasmuch as God is the one heavenly Shepherd and all mankind are the sheep of His fold, the religion or guidance of God must be the means of love and fellowship in the world. If religion proves to be the source of hatred, enmity and contention, if it becomes the cause of warfare and strife and influences men to kill each other, its absence is preferable. For that which is productive of hatred amongst the people is rejected by God, and that which establishes fellowship is beloved and sanctioned by Him. Religion and divine teachings are like unto a remedy.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>My point in sharing these examples is to emphasize the importance of asking people to explain their ideas, and carefully and compassionately listening to what they say, especially before assuming anything. Much time can be lost by speaking at cross purposes, which tends to frustrate both sides and obscure the truth. We\u2019re all on a path toward that truth, and we can help each other along.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My friend, a person of faith and a good citizen, has given countless hours of selfless service to his community \u2013 so it really surprised me when atheists&nbsp;charged him with&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":115820,"featured_media":87438,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2950],"tags":[2978,2986],"series":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73510"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/115820"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=73510"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73510\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":87395,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73510\/revisions\/87395"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/87438"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=73510"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=73510"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=73510"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bahaiteachings.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=73510"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}